Curse

conker · Nov 28, 2005, 04:43 AM // 04:43

Their goes my dog, oh no i lost it, wait They're it is! what is it doing over their? You're dog is humping my dog! Now there dogs are humping it! lol

Iceman2 · Nov 28, 2005, 04:52 AM // 04:52

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Originally Posted by conker

Their goes my dog, oh no i lost it, wait They're it is! what is it doing over their? You're dog is humping my dog! Now there dogs are humping it! lol

I am laughing at the quote above this statement.

Saba The Hobo · Nov 28, 2005, 05:05 AM // 05:05

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Originally Posted by Lasareth

Hm, where I come from the state language is hillbilly. Where a yawl refers to a group of people and the average person couldn't recognize proper grammar if it hit him on the face.

Sounds a good bit like the lovely state that is Mississippi (damn, do I hate it here). However, there is a fair share of both hick and ebonics flying around.

True, the they're/there/their thing is annoying, but I've long since given up expecting such things, on the net, or where I live, and just overlook said things (much to the dismay of my english teacher

).

Eugaet · Nov 28, 2005, 05:22 AM // 05:22

Everybody can learn something from Mr. Period!

Old Dood · Nov 28, 2005, 01:02 PM // 13:02

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Originally Posted by PieXags

Personally, I probably type a lot faster than I speak normally, so I get ahead of myself relatively often. More often than not, when I make a typo in a post, it's not a spelling error, it's that I put an entirely different word in place of what I meant, or even that I wrote a sentence twice!
Who gives a shit how people type. It shouldn't bother you all that much. As our good friend Dan already pointed out: it's the content that matters, not their spelling.

I am sure he does type faster then he speaks! I have head him speak. I am the opposit....I think and talk faster then I type....sometimes faster then my brain can keep up. That part can be dangerous.

Allot of People will give a Sh!t on your typing and grammar skills. They are called employers for one major group of them. Your typing and grammar skills could be the difference that goes in your favor when appying for college, jobs,etc.

You can read my older post if you like. I have always stated that there is nothing wrong with a typ0. Nothing wrong with a misspelled word now and again. Typing in forums is a great exercise in your typing and grammar skills. Mine have increased quite a bit. I still have my problems...PIE likes to point those out to me...especially my spelling.

When I am typing out a post and I want it to be as perfect as I can make it I will open another browser window type in the word I can't spell in the Google toolbar, then Google will ask me if I meant "XXX"? I say to my self...damn I am stoopid and yes Google you are right again. Also if Mrs Dood is right behind me on her computer I will ask her for a spelling...she is good for that.

Naprius · Nov 28, 2005, 01:16 PM // 13:16

People should keep in mind that not everyone on these forums are from the UK or the USA. I myself am from the Netherlands and most people here consider me to be very good at English.

I make a lot of stupid mistakes in my typing, wrong words, typo's, wrong spelling, wrong grammar.

That doesn't make me black and it doesn't make me stupid.
You can't expect everyone to be pro in the English language.

what i'm saying is...

LEAVE ME ALONE YOU MEANIE!!!!

*sob*

Old Dood · Nov 28, 2005, 01:22 PM // 13:22

Naprius,

You are correct. In fact allot of you from other countries like yourself understand English better then Americans. This has always impressed me that school systems in other countries teach other languages better then we do back in the States. My post is aimed at the American's that seem to be lacking in at least trying to better their skills.

nebucanezar · Nov 28, 2005, 01:59 PM // 13:59

You know i am not an english major. I am going to RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO shit up more often than not. Do i care, absolutely not. And i dont see why you are going to set and grate on someone for making a punctuation or spelling mistake. WTF does it matter as long as you can still get the point that they are trying to make.

fgarvin · Nov 28, 2005, 04:28 PM // 16:28

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Originally Posted by Arturo02

You know if you are gonna live in a glass house, don't give people stones to throw. You made a few errors yourself in your reply.

What was that about using proper english again?

I'm dumb, where are the mistakes to which you are referring?

Originally Posted by Monen
Is there an age cutoff for this sort of thing? I'm guessing that sometime after a person's 13th birthday they begin using proper grammar. I just can't see someone in their 20's taking the extra time it takes to type like that, knowing that it will only lessen them in the eyes of their peers.

Scorpion Boy · Nov 28, 2005, 04:41 PM // 16:41

I am good in English according to my teacher.
Still I'm not from the UK or USA I'm from holland

[email protected] t0 @lL D@ DuTcH P33pZ !n D@ H0u$3

Battle Torn · Nov 28, 2005, 04:50 PM // 16:50

Fact is people will talk/type however they want to and no amount of complaining will stop them... and quite rightly so

fgarvin · Nov 28, 2005, 05:06 PM // 17:06

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Originally Posted by Battle Torn

Fact is people will talk/type however they want to and no amount of complaining will stop them... and quite rightly so

Agreed, freedom of speech is one of the issues here, but also I believe that if someone wants to get their point across clearly and concisely, with no chance of confusion on the reader's part, that proper grammar and word usage are important. And seriously, typing those oddly "spelled" words simply takes too long. So their...no, I mean, so they're...no, no, wait…got it...SO THERE, TAKE THAT.

zehly · Nov 28, 2005, 05:44 PM // 17:44

I know I'll get flamed for this, but my sarcasm extends beyond the boundaries of common sense.

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Please, for the love of God, use the correct word when posting to this forum. Anyone past 5th grade English should know the difference....

Could be written as:

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Please, for the love of God, utilize the appropriate word when posting to this forum. Any person that has passed a fifth-grade English class should be able to identify the homonymic differences between written and spoken English.

Why?
If you're going to bash those that confuse the sublte homonymic intricacies of the English language (read: almost everyone), you should be more articulate and helpful.

Nostalgia
1. Avoid alliteration. Always.
2. Never use a long word when a diminutive one will do.
3. Employ the vernacular.
4. Eschew ampersands & abbreviations, etc.
5. Parenthetical remarks (however relevant) are unnecessary.
6. Remember to never split an infinitive.
7. Contractions aren't necessary.
8. Foreign words and phrases are not apropos.
9. One should never generalize.
10. Eliminate quotations. As Ralph Waldo Emerson said, "I hate quotations. Tell me what you know."
11. Comparisons are as bad as cliches.
12. Don't be redundant; don't use more words than necessary; it's highly superfluous.
13. Be more or less specific.
14. Understatement is always best.
15. One-word sentences? Eliminate.
16. Analogies in writing are like feathers on a snake.
17. The passive voice is to be avoided.
18. Go around the barn at high noon to avoid colloquialisms.
19. Even if a mixed metaphor sings, it should be derailed.
20. Who needs rhetorical questions?
21. Exaggeration is a billion times worse than understatement.
22. Don't never use a double negation.
23. capitalize every sentence and remember always end it with point
24. Do not put statements in the negative form.
25. Verbs have to agree with their subjects.
26. Proofread carefully to see if you words out.
27. If you reread your work, you can find on rereading a great deal of repetition can be avoided by rereading and editing.
28. A writer must not shift your point of view.
29. And don't start a sentence with a conjunction. (Remember, too, a preposition is a terrible word to end a sentence with.)
30. Don't overuse exclamation marks!!
31. Place pronouns as close as possible, especially in long sentences, as of 10 or more words, to their antecedents.
32. Writing carefully, dangling participles must be avoided.
33. If any word is improper at the end of a sentence, a linking verb is.
34. Take the bull by the hand and avoid mixing metaphors.
35. Avoid trendy locutions that sound flaky.
36. Everyone should be careful to use a singular pronoun with singular nouns in their writing.
37. Always pick on the correct idiom.
38. The adverb always follows the verb.
39. Last but not least, avoid cliches like the plague; They're old hat; seek viable alternatives.

Maxiemonster · Nov 28, 2005, 05:54 PM // 17:54

I are Dutch, you're not canning to blame four me bad Englis.

You're right, way too many people make stupid mistakes like you mentioned.

fgarvin · Nov 28, 2005, 07:42 PM // 19:42

Zehly,

19 = 34
11 = 39

See #27

Great job though...

Sir Skullcrasher · Nov 28, 2005, 07:50 PM // 19:50

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Originally Posted by Monen

Their
There
They're
Your
You're

Please, for the love of God, use the correct word when posting to this forum. Anyone past 5th grade English should know the difference....

No your wrong about this! We don't need a grammar police on the off-topic forum!

Polloloco3 · Nov 28, 2005, 08:16 PM // 20:16

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Originally Posted by fgarvin

Zehly,

19 = 34
11 = 39

See #27

Great job though...

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19. Even if a mixed metaphor sings, it should be derailed.
34. Take the bull by the hand and avoid mixing metaphors.

11. Comparisons are as bad as cliches.
39. Last but not least, avoid cliches like the plague; They're old hat; seek viable alternatives.

Rules 11 and 39 are different. 11 states that comparisons are bad, so do not use. Where as 39 states that you should avoid cliches. Notice how she used a comparison for number 11? As with most of the rules, she is breaking them while stating them. Very clever work!

Lasareth · Nov 28, 2005, 08:24 PM // 20:24

I don't know... is something that's taught at the elementary level considered as subtle an intricacy as comparatively advanced topics such as subjunctive tense and parallelism?

The only reason it bothers me is that it's so glaringly obvious, and unless you're a non-native speaker, there's no reason to disregard grade-school-level principles. Even non-natives can get it right most of the time.

It shows a complete lack of knowledge of the use of contraction, and I know most people know that can't means can not, so what in the world would you're mean? Your your? It just doesn't make sense.

SOT · Nov 28, 2005, 08:28 PM // 20:28

Intricacy....what a term. It doesn't apply here often

{integral} · Nov 28, 2005, 08:53 PM // 20:53

Personally, I don't have that much of a problem with most people's 'forum-speak'. In-game speak is normally made up of many very short sentences, so this doesn't normally pose a problem, although I do hate to see 'U's and 'R's in place of 'you's and 'are's. However, I have a particular gripe when it comes to correct apostrophe usage. It really is quite simple. Apostrophes show possession, or where there are missing letters. Except in the case of "its" (belonging to it). It is NOT used to denote plurals, or plurals of acronyms. One CD, two CDs (not CD's). Apostrophes showing plural possessives are shown usually by placing the apostrophe after the "s" (The teachers' staff room - One staff room belonging to many teachers). Where words are pluralised differently, for example, child -> children, the apostrophe goes BEFORE the "s". (The children's school).

On a side note, I find it apalling that we, at school in England, have NEVER had an English grammar lesson, yet we are expected to simply know, when we come to learn foreign languages, what the parts of a sentence are called. The most I have ever been taught about English grammar is that "a verb is a doing word". Until I began learning other languages, I had no idea what a subject or object was, or when a noun took the accusative or dative cases. In fact, I was not even aware that cases existed. It makes me, as a teenager, want to revert to some of the 1950s method of schooling - particularly, compulsory Latin lessons.

Also - what's wrong with the passive voice?

Finally, an explanation of "RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO" would also be greatly appreciated. Thanks.